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Terminator Genisys FX In Trailer Not Final?

Last post was about how the Arnold cgi slipped into the uncanny valley.  Don’t worry too much about it.  Just came across some interesting Terminator Genisys news.  Following this link will take you to the TheTerminatorFans website, where they have an exclusive about the state of the special effects featured in that new trailer.  It appears they have come across more recent renderings(screenshots are on their website) and they do look worlds better.  There’s hope after all.

Young Arnold Terminator CGI: A Closer Look

Ok, I think I was wrong about the effects in the last Terminator Genisys trailer.  The CGI arnold in this one looks different.  His face looks like a mask in some shots.  Others, he looks almost completely real up close, aside from the eyes looking a bit off.  Check out the first shot of arnold’s youth effects.

arnold terminator young

The CGI looks like it has stepped into the uncanny valley.

He almost looks like Michael Myers in the above shot. I hope they can fix it. The next one is a little more impressive, but something is off with the eyes. It has a lot of facial detail and almost looks completely real.

Young Arnold Effects

Arnold’s Young Terminator CGI is a tad off around the eyes.

I’m not sure, but it looks like the spacing around the eyes is strange. It’s Close though. In the end, I think I was wrong about the shot from the first trailer being all cgi. The dude in the comments was probably right about it being a shot from the first film.

Furious 7 CGI Brian O’Connor?

I’ve been intrigued about this for awhile.  Furious 7 has opened this weekend and it features one of Paul Walker’s last performances.  His character even features scenes that were done posthumously via special effects.  I haven’t seen the movie yet, so I can only look at a few trailers.  I believe I have found at least one of the CGI Paul Walker effects that we were promised awhile ago.  The first one is of him staring directly at the camera, breaking the fourth wall, which is rare for an actor to do in movies.  I have to admit I can’t tell for certain weather this is CGI or not, but something seems off.  It could be the fact that he holds the expression and stare for what seems like much longer than what would normally appear in a movie.  It almost feels like the shot was handpicked as a tribute to him.

Paul Walker Computer Generated

Is this one of the CGI Paul Walker shots featured in Furious 7?

The next shot is of all the characters walking down a flight of steps, again it is incredibly hard to tell, but the face looks pasted on. It may be just the angle though, as he is looking off to the side and the camera is positioned below.

CGI Brian O'Connor

This shot look may be just from a weird angle, but the head/face looks pasted on via compositing.

All in all I have to say, if these are computer generated shots, they are extremely well done. Its possible I am wrong, but these shots are the only ones that I could pick out as possibly being effects from among the many others. If the other shots of him are CGI, then I am doubly impressed with WETA Digital.

Arnold Youth Effects T5: Another Look

UPDATE 4/13/15: Check out our Closer Look at the Young Arnold Terminator CGI.

How good are the effects going to be in Terminator Genisys?  Damn good I would say.  From what I’ve seen from the trailer, this will have the most convincing CGI human being in a movie yet.  Why is that?  Well, because they pulled off the impossible.  They created a convincing human being that doesn’t exist in the present time.   The internet is arguing weather or not the Arnold Schwarzenegger featured in the trailer is just footage used from the first terminator movie placed over a different background.  IT IS NOT.  It is the CGI Arnold.  I can tell and you will be able to after reading this.  Ok, take a look at this comparison shot from T1 with the T5 Genisys trailer.  Clicking on the picture will bring it up full size:

Real vs CGI Can You Tell

How can you tell the difference between the real Schwarzenegger vs the CGI one?

How can I tell the difference? The first thing different about the two pictures, is Arnold’s hair. There is a slight change in either the shadowing or the actual hair itself, but it’s noticeable. Take a look side by side for comparison:

Comparing Terminators

Real Arnold and Fake Arnold

Lastly and this is easily missed, but it is the biggest indicator that the Arnold on the right is all CGI. The shadowing on his bicep is different. The shape looks the same because the probably used molds to create the CGI terminator from Arnold in 1984, but the lighting on them is different. That shows this is not the same footage, which means it is new and since Arnold is no longer young this has to be the CGI and not a composite.

cgi arnold vs real arnold

The Lighting on the arms indicate CGI trickery.

All in all, I am impressed. While I thought the trailer was a little lacking in the Terminator feel of the first two movies. I miss the electronic score as well as the artistic cinematography. I think the new footage looks way too overlit and movie-production-ish. I hope we see a bunch of the CGI Arnold and its not just a throw away moment like it was in Terminator Salvation(which also had an inferior CGI version of Arnold).

Young Arnold Terminator In Terminator: Genisys!


Updated 12/13/15: I just made post comparing the CGI Arnold with original footage from T1.

Last week the trailer for T5, aka Terminator 5, aka Terminator: Genesis, aka Terminator Genisys was released. Lets cut right to the chase. There is timeline jumping, alternate timelines and possibly future traveling like Back To The Future? That’s all well and good for the storyline. It may or may not upset terminator fans, but what most people want to know is how does the CGI Arnold look in this one? Well I’ve gotta tell ya, they fooled me on this one. I’ll explain below after you take a look at the computer generated Arnold that is supposed to be from the 1st Terminator movie.  This is NOT a shot of Arnold from the 1st movie!

Arnold Is A Young Terminator

Thanks to computer graphics Arnold appears 30 years younger

I thought that this was actually a composite of him from T1 on to a slightly new background for T5. It is in fact all new including Arnold’s terminator character. If you look at the scene on The Terminator dvd or BluRay, you will see Arnold’s hair is slightly different in the way it is styled. Its similar, but in the scene from T1 it looks a bit different. These effects are a huge step up from the CLU special effects in Tron Legacy.

Next up we have a new actor playing the T-1000. Not sure how I feel about that. He looks similar in build, but he’s definitely not Robert Patrick. Why make a young Arnold and not a young Robert Patrick? In my opinion he’s just as much an iconic Terminator as Arnold.

T-1000 Eye Shot

New Actor Playing T-1000

Here we have the Terminator(Arnold Schwarzenegger) smashing what looks to be John Connor through a wall. Is it really Connor or is it the new T-1000 morphed into a disguise?

Old Arnold Smashing Connor Through A Wall

Terminator Fights John Connor

Lastly We have the “I’ll be back” moment with Schwarzenegger’s Terminator sky diving through the rotor blades of a helicopter. What is interesting to note is that his hair is all white and in other shots of the trailer he appears to have it brown.

i'll be back terminator

I’ll be back right after I skydive into this helicopter real quick.